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MP Fastest Time Rankings and Sequence Breaking Discussion (v1.0)
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| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/8/2003 4:48:23 AM |
| This topic combines and continues discussion from two previous topics: Metroid Prime Sequence Breaking(v. 6.0) [Previously Ice+Grav before Thardus] http://s3.cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=32495&topic=6984214 Metroid Prime High Scores (Post Away!!!) Part 3 http://s3.cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=32495&topic=6637233 Although sequence breaking discussion is still going on in the previous topic, it would be great if it finds its way here after the previous topic hits 500 posts and closes. Completion times and sequence breaking have a lot in common, and it's high time they settled down together. ;-) For details on the sequence breaking tricks achieved so far in the U.S. NTSC version of Metroid Prime, visit zell's site at http://membres.lycos.fr/zell99/metroid/ or its mirror at http://membres.lycos.fr/zellmetroid/. So far, 24% is the lowest completion percentage deemed possible in that version, confirmed on Normal (and soon to be confirmed on Hard mode). For additional video captures of sequence breaking techniques and other cool tricks, there are a few other places you can go: http://www.ens-lyon.fr/~vpoupet/metroid_prime/ This spot is hosted by Zanapher and is filled with more video captures than you can shake a stick at. If you're looking for a particular vid, chances are you'll find it here. As of this posting, all vids at this location are captured by kip and require the latest divx codec. Download it from www.divx.com. Metroid Prime Video Capture Archives http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/ This is my backyard, featurng an index linking to a handful of videos captured by kip. Some of these vids are identical to those hosted by Zanapher Plasma.Beam videos by Andrew Mills http://www.samus.co.uk/movies/plasma_early_full.mpg (7.0 Megs) This is a high quality capture of getting the plasma beam early that doesn't require any special codecs or downloads, and can be played on any playback software. Finally, the most current list of fastest completion times and frigate escape times in Metroid Prime is located here: Metroid Prime Fastest Time Rankings http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/MP-FastestTimeRankings.htm Post any record-breaking times here and I'll add them to the list. Please post new records in bold to make them easier to find, or just yell at me a lot. =) Same goes for any mistakes. --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/8/2003 5:45:37 AM |
| wow ama, nice topic post =) --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:43 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: ShotgunShot402 | Posted: 4/8/2003 6:44:28 AM |
|
..... i hope im putting in the right thing for this discussion(confused by all the sites from the above message) but my best time (sigh) hard mode 94% 6:24 and i dont feel like accessing all the sites listed. so if anyone can post the world record on this page it would be appreciated by me..... |
| From: ShotgunShot402 | Posted: 4/8/2003 6:46:15 AM |
| --- escape from frigate time 3:51 time remaining |
| From: DEVILBIT | Posted: 4/8/2003 9:40:07 AM |
| Hi. Glad that this topic still on, altough there arent new discoveries. Keep the good work Mr. Amasawa & K. Try to come every now and then to see if something new breaks. Sorry to post this off topic question but think this the more reliable source of information. Was reading a topic of the differences between NTSC and PAL versions and someone pointed out that there were some graphics improvements like better rain and waves in the water. Does anyone knows a site to find pictures of this graphics improvements? or pictures of any other differences in general? On topic, have any of the PAL users confirmed if OP can be hurt without X-RAY (still curious about that)? Or if its posible to break elite pirate without main PB? Thanks for the time, keep the good work. |
| From: Accutron | Posted: 4/8/2003 10:47:06 AM |
| Maybe I'm missing something, but on the posted record times, Cal's Hard 100% (2:49) game is faster than his Hard Any% (3.02) game. Shouldnt they be the same game? |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/8/2003 10:52:53 AM |
| No new Discoveries? Look at my post in the v 6.0 Sequence Breaking Topic... --- AIM: refllcooldave MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 4:03.23 HRC ~53450ft/16291.6m EM: 3610 CM: 129 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: xXxMorpheusxXx | Posted: 4/8/2003 1:16:23 PM |
| WOW accutron or whatever, Metroid Prime on Hard mode is about 1.5/2x's harder on hard mode than on easy...thmurd! --- So your saying i can dodge bulletsø? Well then, bring it on! |
| From: Accutron | Posted: 4/8/2003 1:29:15 PM |
| What does that have to do with anything? Perhaps you should read my post more carefully? Both times in question are on Hard Mode. Cal's Hard 100% time is better than his Hard Any% time (which just happens to also be at 100% completion), and should therefore completely supercede it. |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/8/2003 2:35:47 PM |
| ShotgunShot, please use the last link in the first post to view the high scores. I know it's a copy-and-paste but it beats hunting through the topic for the most recent scores list imo. Give it a shot and tell me what you think. Incidentally, your time doesn't place in any of the categories but that's not too shabby a time -- keep at it! Thanks accutron, I'll correct that in a few minutes. I'm a little slow in getting the list up to date right off the bat, but I promise I'll get there. WOW Morpheus or whatever, I think you just swallowed your foot whole! =D Care to cast us any more pearls of wisdom, O Enlightened One? ;) --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/8/2003 3:15:10 PM |
| My bad, shotgun; you did make the list. I had an old time of mine up there that I overlooked, but I got rid of it, so poof! you're on, for now. =) EDIT: Good to hear from you DEVILBIT. No, no major breaks since your last visit. kip and trebor are working on Hard mode runs and getting truckloads of video captures, and CAL's breaking the game down speedwise in every way possible with Obi Kip Kenobi advising him in some spots. =) --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/8/2003 5:45:03 PM |
| well you can now completely skip that first scripted battle against wave troopers thanks to some tricks from varsis erion and trebor, that combined with some other stuff reduces the difficulty of the pbomb run in 24% to nothing. all in all you can now sleepwalk your way to omega pirate before having to put any effort in. =] but other than that, not much new stuff besides a ton of speed run time savers that have been figured out. an attempt at no spider ball would probably involve finding a way to move past the vines that block the front entrance to sunchamber, in order to make it so that you don't have to figure out sun tower without spider. but that is seriously bordering on glitch if some of this stuff isn't already; i'm not too keen on moving through walls to skip items. an attempt at no boost ball hits a roadblock at hydro without boost and grav (not that geo without boost and life grove have been figured out either). a lot of people think you couldn't get past the room, and you can't skip it by using a pbomb expansion to enter the mines from the back since that would up it by 1% for no reason. but then again people haven't had a reason to look at that room very hard since you can't skip boost right now. besides those 2, i don't see what else has a chance of being skipped period (besides sj), much less cleanly skipped to equal 23%. half the % is artifacts anyway and makes it look like there are a lot more items we don't know how to skip; but actually most of it is just x-ray (forced on us because of op), varia, the beams, and other obligatory stuff like morph ball. |
| From: Videogaming | Posted: 4/8/2003 6:19:33 PM |
| Good topic. Although Amasawa, I think you should post the list right here on GameFAQs so quick checkers can see the list. It's just another option rather than visiting the website. Also, post the website along with the list so people don't have to go back to the first post to see it. Mucho thanks for taking over updating :) (it really gets tiring after a while) Also, someone needs to bug zell to make a (final?) update to his site. There was some good stuff in v5.0 Sequence Breaking and also in the current topic. Not much, but still worthy of being on the site. Oh, and next version should be part 10. Ya know, combine the two? Shows how long this stuff has been around. |
| From: bigbadwolf | Posted: 4/8/2003 6:46:20 PM |
| kip - like I said, it looks like they shut off the way to skip the wave trooper scripted event with a locked door. Unless there's some trick to it I don't know (and yes I have dispatched of all the pirates in the area). Any PAL players managed to get through the back way? Got so bored of sniping troopers in the pbomb run (mainly elite research) I bought Luigi's Mansion for some light relief! --- Insigno ergo sum. |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/8/2003 7:02:56 PM |
| yeah, in the pal version that's still a problem... not sure how it wants you to secure the area there. have you tried moving the crane around? |
| From: YugiMC | Posted: 4/8/2003 9:04:04 PM |
| Why isnt Cal on the normal Low%? Is he not good enough to be on the Normal Low%? Or has he never done it?? DOES HE THINK HES TOO SPECIAL TO PLAY NORMAL HUH!?!? WELL IM SPECIAL TO!! MWAHAHAAHHAAHAHA --- Apocalyse comes for us all...bringing Chaos,Destruction and Despair....you cannot run.......just give away..... |
| From: zell99 | Posted: 4/8/2003 10:17:12 PM |
| VG- I could update the site, but I don't know the latest tricks and stuff, so you guys would have to write the whole text for me.. If someone does it, I could ;) --- http://membres.lycos.fr/zell99/metroid Y'all [...] make sure it's popin' when we get up there... -Tupac |
| From: TreborSelbon | Posted: 4/8/2003 10:25:57 PM |
| Great idea merging the topics...I wonder who suggested it... --- it's like a legless man getting a 4-minute mile without using one of the kickass electric wheelchairs ~ Thomeyis, aweing his internet speed |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/8/2003 10:26:19 PM |
| zell, i'm sure i'm not the only one who would be happy to help with that... just stop by the channel some time and we could work on updating the site or something. |
| From: Videogaming | Posted: 4/8/2003 10:58:27 PM |
| zell- Someone saved all of part 5 of sequence breaking on their comp, I think. Perhaps it was Amasawa. Ask him, and perhaps you can sift through it. |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/9/2003 12:27:23 AM |
| Entering Flaahgra's room from the backside causes Chozo Ghosts to appear! Phendrana drifts without Varia Suit seems to work fine! Both testes with Action Replay, of course... --- AIM: refllcooldave MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 4:03.23 HRC ~53450ft/16291.6m EM: 3610 CM: 129 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/9/2003 12:29:58 AM |
| I only saved one of 'em, unfortunately. I don't remember which one offhand but lemme know if you want it and I'll send it to ya zell. fine by me with the score posting thing videogaming. I thought maybe it would help to keep the topic posting for just tenative stuff but it ain't no thang. I'll post the list here again when I get off my lazy ass and do it. Trebor, I don't remember his name, but the guy who suggested it was wearing a lot of gold chains and liked to say helluva a lot. Oh, wait... it was you. Never mind; my mistake. :p Yugi -- I imagine CAL's just wrapped up in his kung fu jedi masta MP training routine. Bet he'd work on a Normal time if you sent him a hundred bucks, but that's just me going out on a very long, very fragile limb here. *wanders into chat to see what's going on --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/9/2003 3:13:52 AM |
| Normal 48% 1:46 A very disappointing run. Every thing fell behind schedule after Omega Pirate. Oh well, I should finish Wind Waker now =\ BTW Yugi, I don't do low% speed runs cuz I suck at them. --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:43 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/9/2003 11:34:31 AM |
| Normal Low% 1. TreborSelbon 2:55 (24%) 2. Gold Leader 4:09 (24%) 3. Videogaming 4:22 (27%) Normal any% 1. CAL Foolio 1:46 (48%) 2. funkytoad 2:31 (47%) 3. Normal 100% 1. CAL Foolio 2:43 2. Lazy Veysey 3:02 3. Urazz Izmine 3:17 Hard Low% 1. Gold Leader 4:01 (26%) 2. kip 3:20 (27%) 3. Hard any% 1. Gold Leader 2:01 (36%) 2. CAL Foolio 3:02 (100%) 3. ShotgunShot402 6:24 (94%) Hard 100% 1. CAL Foolio 2:49 2. Varsis Erion 3:50 3. Best Frigate Escape Times (Time Remaining) 1. CAL Foolio 4:14.39 2. gamecubeman27 4:10.54 3. Mario Cleanstuff 4:07.26 --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: MegaSamusX | Posted: 4/9/2003 11:49:04 AM |
| those times are just amazing. i hope that one day i will be that good. --- Samus Aran should not be your dream girl. I am serious!!! |
| From: tfd | Posted: 4/9/2003 12:04:29 PM |
| I'm trying to get the SJB early, via DBJM off the ship. Arg, I just cannot do it! I have read previous techniques, and watched two different videos. I've probably spent four hours trying, truth to tell. I think I get pretty close. The green floor of the upper landing area fills my view as I bump and fall down. I'm aiming for the leftish point on the upper area, jumping from the left turbine flame. I've tried doing a straight-up DBJ (bomb #3 above bombs #1 and #2) in two ways: 1) after planting #2 and #3, back up a meter or so, then be moving forward into #2 as it explodes, and push full forward as #3 explodes. I get close. No running animation (but one of the vids has no running animation). 2) After planting #2 and #3, stay sitting on top of #2. When #2 blows, push forward a tad, and push full forward as #3 blows. I get close. Running animation, if I recall (as does one of the vids). I cannot do the angled-stack DBJ, where #3 is planted forward of #2. When I try, I can't reverse direction and back up, while still in the air from the blast of #1. Even though I pull back on the stick, I just keep sailing forward, and land off the end of the flame down on the ground. A thought just occurred to me. Plant #1, and plant #2 in back of #1 a bit. Then try to plant #3 above #1 (thus forward of #2). Perhaps by retracting the diagonal path a bit, I can land from #1's blast still on the flame? --- -- Tom |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/9/2003 12:19:12 PM |
| It's a tricky technique, if you ask me. There's some rhymme & reason to it, but there are still some odd things that just don't make it intuitive. I have trouble getting it with any degree of consistency at all. The best advice that worked for me was watching kip's vid, and mimicking the placement of the morph ball EXACTLY as he did -- i.e., after planting the first bomb, push back and to the left slightly. All the theorizing in the world did nothing for me except ensure that I'd be eating the grass on the side of the cliff as I fell past it. Aiming for that part of the cliff that sticks out (on the left) also makes a big difference for me. I know it's already been said before by DEVILBIT and many others, but I really have to concentrate on aiming MORE to the left than I think I should. this is just what (kind of) works for me though. I have more trouble with this trick than ANY of the others, with one exception. --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: Paratroopa1 | Posted: 4/9/2003 5:56:00 PM |
| There's only two Normal any% times? LOL, okay... Normal 66%: 9:46 Bow down before me, I have the third-best time. =P I AM going to actually try a serious speed run sometime, though. --- "I gets soooooooooooooo annoying!" ~ BlueWizard13 "I love to hear people praise me so please feel free to tell me how good I am." ~ jibtothemax |
| From: TreborSelbon | Posted: 4/9/2003 9:10:22 PM |
| I've done hard low % and hard 100%. Though my times suck ass, I could fill those holes... --- it's like a legless man getting a 4-minute mile without using one of the kickass electric wheelchairs ~ Thomeyis, aweing his internet speed |
| From: ScrewMeElmo | Posted: 4/9/2003 10:36:34 PM |
| Is that 100% as in both 100% items and scans? |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/9/2003 10:42:50 PM |
| 100% items, whatever number of scans. --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: zell99 | Posted: 4/9/2003 11:10:40 PM |
| I beat Paratroopa... Normal 42% 3:52 =) ph33r me! --- http://membres.lycos.fr/zell99/metroid Y'all [...] make sure it's popin' when we get up there... -Tupac |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/9/2003 11:44:55 PM |
| Normal 73% 14:13 ... Am i in? X-D --- AIM: refllcooldave MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 4:03.23 HRC ~53450ft/16291.6m EM: 3610 CM: 129 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: ShotgunShot402 | Posted: 4/10/2003 1:55:25 AM |
| man someones bound to beat mine it wasnt that hard besides that last 3 boss fights , plus there was alot of margin of error (like missed jumps etc. ) so i m gonna try to get a better score, :) i cant see beating a 2 hour hard run. thats alot of action, and i bet would be fun ..... |
| From: Supreme2002 | Posted: 4/10/2003 4:24:28 PM |
| I got 4:07 in frigate escape..but don't know if it's faster than the actual 3rd place or not :/. Tomorrow I will beat 4:08 for sure :)... But now I really want to see the 4:14 escape video, plz ;)! --- <<| Metroid Prime(PAL): Normal: 100% Items/Scans | Hard: 100% Items/Scans |>> |
| From: TreborSelbon | Posted: 4/10/2003 7:21:47 PM |
| I had a semi-decent escape time during my Varia-less setup, but I don't remember what it was. --- it's like a legless man getting a 4-minute mile without using one of the kickass electric wheelchairs ~ Thomeyis, aweing his internet speed |
| From: Supreme2002 | Posted: 4/11/2003 7:46:39 AM |
| It seems that in the PAL version the 50Hz mode is faster than the 60Hz mode. The clock runs the same speed, but Samus moves definatly faster in 50Hz than in 60Hz! I have a video proof where I do exactly the same but I'm about 2sec. slower. Believe me, I tested this over some hours! --- <<| Metroid Prime(PAL): Normal: 100% Items/Scans | Hard: 100% Items/Scans |>> |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/11/2003 8:45:44 AM |
| Makes sense to me what you're saying. Speaking of this, what does everybody thing about making a separate list for PAL players? They can't possibly make the same times anyway with the extra bendezium laying around, so if this thing with the speed is also a factor... Should I double the list? --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/11/2003 9:09:06 AM |
| No. DEFINITLY not. I rather have negativ aspects(for example bendezium) than another list. And that 50Hz 60Hz stuff is BULL****! They spend 5 month on converting a game to totaly change game speed?!? no... --- AIM: refllcooldave MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 4:03.23 HRC ~53450ft/16291.6m EM: 3610 CM: 129 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/11/2003 9:19:38 AM |
| Easy dude. The 50Hz vs 60Hz is where the difference in speed is coming from that Supreme is claiming, not the game itself. Is there something unreasonable about that? I could swear I've heard stuff to support his idea before... --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/11/2003 9:24:15 AM |
| I know, but teh games aren't converted with no use, you see? They're suppsoed to work teh same on 50 as wel as 60Hz... --- AIM: refllcooldave MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 4:03.23 HRC ~53450ft/16291.6m EM: 3610 CM: 129 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: Supreme2002 | Posted: 4/11/2003 1:42:57 PM |
| The time is exactly the same 1min(60Hz) = 1min(50Hz) = 1min realtime... but your movement is slightly faster in 50Hz than in 60Hz. Here is what I did: I tried some hours to get a good time in frigate escape in 60Hz mode. I got 4:04, I think. The next day I tried another run, but I switched to 50Hz mode! I got 4:04(or 4:05) on my very first try! After this, I thought the clock runs faster/slower. ..but NEGATIVE! Then I thought: Hm ok, it was perhaps only a stupid but lucky run... NEGATIVE! I knew that I couldn't enter the 'tube-section' of the frigate faster than 4:24:9(60Hz) with my normal speedrun-strat. ooookay..I got 4:26(50Hz!) on my second try ;). Maybe 4:27 possible. So, I have 2 videos(50+60Hz) with exactly the same movement to this point...so you can see 50Hz is slightly faster :). http://www.geocities.com/danielviebrock/Supreme_MetroidPrime_50-60Hz.zip --- <<| Metroid Prime(PAL): Normal: 100% Items/Scans | Hard: 100% Items/Scans |>> |
| From: gamecubeman27 | Posted: 4/11/2003 2:00:56 PM |
| hard 100% 9:25 --- E. V. I. L. Every Villain Is Lemons. |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/11/2003 2:10:14 PM |
| Oops, of course the clocks would be the same, I realize now that you've pointed this out. >_< Guess I'm having a blonde attack today... :p so ok, with that in mind Supreme, what's really the point in showing any difference? Just to show that a slight difference the speed the entire game runs at requires slighty better reflexes or something? Or is it just because the mountain is there and must be climbed, the sea is there and must be sailed, the beer is there and must be drunk, and so on and so on... --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: Supreme2002 | Posted: 4/11/2003 2:34:12 PM |
| no. If someone beats the game in 60Hz mode in 3:00h and another player beats the game in 50Hz in 3:00h, it's not the same...that's all I want to say. So you maybe don't understand what I'm talking about because you are not a PAL player right? So I hope every PAL player who's interested in speedruns will see this and play in 50Hz mode instead of 60Hz! Back to last question: I don't think we need another ranking for PAL. Only 1.-5. place in each section and like this: 1. 1:46(NTSC), 2. 2:22(PAL) :). --- <<| Metroid Prime(PAL): Normal: 100% Items/Scans | Hard: 100% Items/Scans |>> |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/11/2003 2:38:56 PM |
| So you maybe don't understand what I'm talking about because you are not a PAL player right? That's correct, but LLCoolDave IS a PAL player, and he's contesting what you're saying, so I'm interested in finding out why. That's why I'm asking. Thanks for the feedback. --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: TreborSelbon | Posted: 4/11/2003 9:35:47 PM |
| We had this same problem on the Melee board. My vote: We have a seperate list, but not a seperate topic. There's hardly enough demand for this one... As for the difference between 50Hz and 60Hz, I'm still not sure. I have seen no real proof either way, so I dunno what to believe. Either way, I'm not sure it would make much difference in this game. I mean, there is no speed run that is 100% perfect. There are just too many places to be faster than someone else. --- it's like a legless man getting a 4-minute mile without using one of the kickass electric wheelchairs ~ Thomeyis, aweing his internet speed |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/12/2003 12:01:16 AM |
| frigate escape 4:15.1x didn't even try =\ --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:43 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/12/2003 1:25:28 AM |
| Just leave it as long as we don't got good proof, and a reason to make a seperate list. I doubt anyone would care about 3 or 4 minutes pal players could get by running faster -.- --- AIM: refllcooldave MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 4:03.23 HRC ~53450ft/16291.6m EM: 3610 CM: 129 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: Supreme2002 | Posted: 4/12/2003 10:15:30 AM |
| Frigate Escape: 4:10:7 I got video proof, If u want... --- <<| Metroid Prime(PAL): Normal: 100% Items/Scans | Hard: 100% Items/Scans |>> |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/12/2003 10:20:44 PM |
| my estimates on the eventual lowest times are: normal any% 1:30-1:35 normal 100% 2:05-2:10 hard any% 1:50-1:55 hard 100% 2:20-2:25 --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:43 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: TreborSelbon | Posted: 4/12/2003 11:20:44 PM |
| Here's my estimates: Normal 24% -- sub 2:30 Normal 27% -- sub 2 (basically, anything with the Charge Beam) But there's really no use for Normal 27%. Even if one were to complete a sub 1 game, it would still be bumped by a 37 hour 24% game. --- it's like a legless man getting a 4-minute mile without using one of the kickass electric wheelchairs ~ Thomeyis, aweing his internet speed |
| From: Yoritoki Komatsu | Posted: 4/13/2003 1:18:01 AM |
| hey cal im not sure if you have posted strategies and explanations for your times put could you help a brother out and post one if you all ready have could you give me a URL? it seems to me since you blow the competition out of the water in speed runs you must know something we don't. My 100% in 3:56 was impressive untill you posted your scores... |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/13/2003 1:42:20 AM |
| no, i don't have any secrets. i learned everything i know from kip and trebor, which is why i always say that kip and trebor would easily beat any of my times if they ever bothered to play anything besides low% runs. --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:43 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/13/2003 6:07:20 AM |
| Normal 62% 3:35 PAL 3:21 Impact Crator Save Game. Pretty much know my route, and it's kinda ok for PAL(dman you, Bendezium). I could easily skip more missiles and tanks, pretty sure I'll be able to get sub 3 seeing as this is my first speed run. --- AIM: refllcooldave MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 4:03.23 HRC ~53450ft/16291.6m EM: 3610 CM: 129 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/13/2003 3:06:39 PM |
| I agree there should be two separate score lists eventually since the PAL players need more time to complete the game on any % runs due to the bendezium in front of the door at the top of geothermal core. (and yeah, DEFINITELY not two separate topics) For now I'm just gonna leave it as one list and mark those which are PAL times, since there aren't very many yet. -------------- Normal Low% 1. TreborSelbon 2:55 (24%) 2. Gold Leader 4:09 (24%) 3. Videogaming 4:22 (27%) Normal any% 1. CAL Foolio 1:46 (48%) 2. funkytoad 2:31 (47%) 3. LLCoolDave 3:35 (62%) [PAL version] Normal 100% 1. CAL Foolio 2:43 2. Lazy Veysey 3:02 3. Urazz Izmine 3:17 Hard Low% 1. Gold Leader 4:01 (26%) 2. kip 3:20 (27%) 3. Hard any% 1. Gold Leader 2:01 (36%) 2. CAL Foolio 3:02 (100%) 3. ShotgunShot402 6:24 (94%) Hard 100% 1. CAL Foolio 2:49 2. Varsis Erion 3:50 3. gamecubeman27 9:25 Best Frigate Escape Times (Time Remaining) 1. CAL Foolio 4:15.x 2. Supreme2002 4:10.7x [PAL version] 3. gamecubeman27 4:10.54 --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: Supreme2002 | Posted: 4/13/2003 4:19:31 PM |
| I will try a 100% Normal(PAL) run in the next days, I think with the same route as the game/programmers 'want' to collect the items... 24% and any% follows ;). --- <<| Metroid Prime(PAL): Normal: 100% Items/Scans | Hard: 100% Items/Scans |>> |
| From: dartsarecool9 | Posted: 4/13/2003 8:27:40 PM |
| I'm guessing that this is the right place to post this: How the hell are you supposed make the jump on the first spider ball track from the metal lining when getting the plasma beam early? --- I want everyone to know that I'm lost. |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/13/2003 8:47:10 PM |
| pushing against walls adds a lot of height to Samus' jumps. try pushing against the wall for about half of your first jump, then pull away, do your midair jump and try to push forward against the post that's sticking out of the middle of the first block (you don't want to actually land on the post though; it just helps to let you sorta slide onto the top of the block). If you've looked at zell's site for more info already and still can't seem to nail this trick, just post and I'll try to explain one possible way to do it in more detail. --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: darthpaul | Posted: 4/14/2003 10:22:34 AM |
| And well? Nobody pass Magmoor whitout Varia yet? I try and try but I cant get to the ìMonitor Stationî room, I died in the door before this room. Any help, tips, walktrough? I have: morphing ball, misiles, bombs, space jump and 3 tanks of energy. PD. Sorry my inglish, i am from Mexico. |
| From: dartsarecool9 | Posted: 4/14/2003 6:52:03 PM |
| Yeah. I looked at Zell's sight already. I'm fine except for that one jump though. I'll try it again once I get around to it. Thanks for the tip. --- I want everyone to know that I'm lost. |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/15/2003 5:22:45 AM |
| frigate escape 4:12:50 i guess i'll try to improve it for a bit before i get rid of the file and use it for something else. |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/15/2003 6:59:09 AM |
| update: frigate escape 4:14:52 that's enough for now i think, i'm not a god like cal. ;-] i'll need to check the last digit again once i turn this into a vid, i was slowing it down on the vcr to check the time it stopped at. |
| From: Warlord gaia | Posted: 4/15/2003 9:06:01 AM |
| Bump |
| From: Supreme2002 | Posted: 4/15/2003 10:32:09 AM |
| hey kip, can you please explain me your differences in your frigate escape strat than in my video, plzzz ;): www.geocities.com/danielviebrock/MP/Supreme_SpacePirateFrigate_04.10.7.zip --- <<| Metroid Prime(PAL): Normal: 100% Items/Scans | Hard: 100% Items/Scans |>> |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/15/2003 11:31:34 AM |
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| From: Supreme2002 | Posted: 4/15/2003 12:52:20 PM |
| Thx for your tips =), I will try it the next time! I didn't know about the L-lock jump, that it's faster than just moving = big thanks ;)! I hate the part after losing your stuff, I L-lock 2 times(so I have to turn about 70-80ƒ once). It's hard to do with only 1 L-lock without getting stuck into walls or losing time ;).. * after passing the door that blows up on its own, i don't roll up the slope in the next room. >Yes...that was a big fault in this run done by Supreme ;P... --- <<| Metroid Prime(PAL): Normal: 100% Items/Scans | Hard: 100% Items/Scans |>> |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/15/2003 2:14:04 PM |
| no prob; glad to offer advice if it helps. but yeah, using that jump thing should easily get you at least 4:13, from there i guess it's about refining methods for other rooms. every second counts in frigate escape after all. let me know how it goes. |
| From: dartsarecool9 | Posted: 4/15/2003 2:25:28 PM |
| Wouldn't it be cool if you could somehow skip the part of the frigate where your items malfunction and you didn't have to get them again? I think that would be screwed up. It would lower the percentage by 3%, and it would make life easier in then rooms that you are supposed to need the grapple beam, plus you would have the charge beam. Just a thought... --- I want everyone to know that I'm lost. |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/15/2003 2:29:12 PM |
| Funny you should suggest that, because kip and some others were talking about that very thing not too long ago. Unfortunately someone's tested this with AR (I think it was LLCoolDave?) and found that you still have to get your weapons again. =( The only difference mentioned was that you see Samus escaping the frigate still wearing the Varia suit, if I recall correctly. --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: gamecubeman27 | Posted: 4/15/2003 4:51:00 PM |
| yeah, that would be cool if you didn't have to go and get those items, oh well. Hard any% 6:15 75% --- E. V. I. L. Every Villain Is Lemons. |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/15/2003 5:57:06 PM |
| ama, i need to ask you something. when you were testing the whole phazon elite without the main power bomb thing, did you try going to central dynamo and killing the invisible drone, then taking the door to mqa and using it to enter phazon processing center (taking out op on the way), and then using that as a way back to the phazon elite? i know the entrance door in central dynamo is locked until you pick up the power bomb, but i remember you telling me you could leave through the door to mqa in the middle of the fight, so i was curious if it remains unlocked after the invisible drone dies. if it does, i'm wondering if you used the door to mqa to make your way back to phazon processing center, then trying your pbomb expansion again on the phazon elite to see if it would set him loose. because i just got an idea from reading a post that makes me think it might not actually be having the main pbomb that triggers it, but actually just beating the drone; unless you've tested this already that is. of course it'd be hard to know which one it was if you couldn't leave until after getting the pbomb, but i thought the door to mqa stays unlocked the entire time, even after he dies; does it? |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/15/2003 7:25:05 PM |
| The door to MQA stays unlocked the entire time. The first time I tested the stasis tank, I remember running from the fight with the drone and heading through MQA to take out Omega and then on to the stasis tank. I can't remember for sure what I did for the second pbomb test, though. I'm positive I went back and defeated the drone at some point after testing the tank to see if it would unlock that top door in the central dynamo (because at that point I had concluded that the door had to be unlocked from the central dynamo side if the trigger to make the stasis tank breakable had been activated). I can't recall for sure, however, if I went back to the tank again after that anyway by going through MQA once more, just to make sure that I hadn't activated the trigger by killing the drone even though the door at the top of the cental dynamo was still locked. It's been way too long since I looked at that stuff. =( I'll pop into chat and see if I can explain better. If anyone wants further details pls ask, but since I'm not entirely sure myself I don't wanna clutter the thread with too much crap. =\ I WILL use this opportunity though to stress, once again, that it would REALLY be a good idea if someone else would do extensive testing on this, especially if they're playing PAL version to see if something's changed. Even if you're playing U.S. NTSC, it's possible I could have overlooked something. (It's been known to happen. ;-]) --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/15/2003 9:13:16 PM |
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| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/15/2003 10:52:56 PM |
| frigate escape 4:17.88 vid is ready =\ --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:43 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/16/2003 6:01:24 AM |
| nice, gonna have to play some more frigate today then. |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/16/2003 7:57:30 AM |
| frigate escape 4:15:89 i got stuck in the tunnels for like 2 seconds too, since i suck so badly at rolling into the next one smoothly. time to improve it... |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/16/2003 8:12:00 AM |
| frigate escape 4:18:03 now what sukka? i see how to get 4:18. perhaps with perfect play 4:20 can yet be acheived, cuz i know my run wasn't perfect. |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/16/2003 11:42:43 AM |
| o_O at the speed-freak frigate times. I'm gonna send you guys a box of Quaaludes for next Christmas. I think the uppers are making you a little crazah. ;-) --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: Supreme2002 | Posted: 4/16/2003 12:45:47 PM |
| wow, really great times =)! damn... my videorecorder is damaged and I want to tape my frigate times, argl... btw. CAL, upload your frigate run, NOW =P! --- <<| Metroid Prime(PAL): Normal: 100% Items/Scans | Hard: 100% Items/Scans |>> |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/16/2003 1:58:41 PM |
| ask for kip's vid since it's faster =) anyways, after watching kip's vid, i now know that 4:21+ is possible, since i left the ridley room over 3 seconds earlier than kip and he still beat me =\ --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:43 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/16/2003 2:03:54 PM |
| ok, new goal is 4:21:xx |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/16/2003 2:16:45 PM |
| phew. So what to do now? I forgot what ishould test next. Ah, that Flaahgra-chozo ghost trigger thingy and now that phazon 1337 stuff. Will do this week-end. --- AIM: refllcooldave MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 4:03.23 HRC ~53450ft/16291.6m EM: 3610 CM: 129 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/16/2003 5:47:34 PM |
| frigate escape 4:20.53 amasawa was right, 4:20+ is possible. i'm done with frigate escape until someone *cough* kip *cough* beats my time XD btw, i'm offering the vid on irc too. --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:43 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: Gold Leader | Posted: 4/16/2003 6:09:44 PM |
| I have a new time for hard any %: 1:58 31%!!!!! YES I HAVE FINNALLY GOTTEN A BELOW 2:00 TIME FOR HARD!!!! I HAD TO REDO THE WHOLE GAME!! YES!!!!! --- Sig, No thanks. I don't smoke I'm sure illiterate people all over the world are reading this - Paratroopa1 |
| From: Gold Leader | Posted: 4/16/2003 6:12:04 PM |
| and by the way, I have started an hard 100% --- Sig, No thanks. I don't smoke I'm sure illiterate people all over the world are reading this - Paratroopa1 |
| From: Supreme2002 | Posted: 4/16/2003 6:52:25 PM |
| nice new times =)! @CALFoolio okay, plz tell me your irc nick or channel. --- <<| Metroid Prime(PAL): Normal: 100% Items/Scans | Hard: 100% Items/Scans |>> |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/16/2003 6:53:16 PM |
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| From: SteelWingX | Posted: 4/16/2003 7:08:18 PM |
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| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/16/2003 7:23:24 PM |
| supreme- we're in channel #MetroidPrime on irc.esper.net port 6667. feel free to stop by any time. steelwing - wow, you're really bad at this game =) --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:43 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/16/2003 7:28:04 PM |
| CAL's proved his expertise with this game time and time again, and has all the details to back it up you could possibly want, so no, SteelWing, his time is legitmate and it most definately stays. btw you'll want to watch the censor bypass if you're concerned about being modded; just passing on the advice since I'm guessing you're new here. --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/16/2003 8:19:42 PM |
| frigate escape 4:18:52 sigh, i'm not gonna bother making a vid of this one, waiting for 4:20:xx. |
| From: chasm | Posted: 4/16/2003 8:46:13 PM |
| how is it posible to get those times and how hard is it to get through 24% game |
| From: SteelWingX | Posted: 4/16/2003 8:51:21 PM |
| i dont care how much of an "expert" he is - two and a half hours on hard 100% is DEFINATELY impossible and i have NO IDEA how you have played through the game yet cannot see that....u ppl are crazy, just beating all of the bosses takes a good hour combined....two and a half is absolutely rediculous for 100%, i would somewhat believe someone who said they got that time with 24%, but NEVER in my life would i believe 100% in that time....hell, just to walk through every room in the game takes a good two hours WITHOUT stopping to fight a lot of enemies, not to mention go back for expansions after pieces of equipment |
| From: Toozin | Posted: 4/16/2003 8:56:54 PM |
| SteelWingX: Cal has video proof. He DID get that time. It IS possible. Just because YOU can't do it doesn't mean that ANYONE can't do it. It just so happens that Cal has superhuman speed. --- Maybe you can interface with my ass. By biting it. - Bender |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/16/2003 9:03:33 PM |
| still impossible, SteelWingX? I'm glad to see people challenge these times and push the envelope, but you don't know what you're talking about. CAL has overwhelming amounts of video that show EXPLICITLY how he can get from room to room that fast and what his route is. You, on the other hand, are still struggling to beat Prime's first form on Hard mode, and claimed that the opening sequence takes 15 minutes when I know from personal experience that you can get from the beginning of the game to the ship with 0:06 on the clock. 'Nuff said. --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/16/2003 9:06:40 PM |
| heh, even less than 6 minutes is possible for opening sequence, and that's on hard too. |
| From: SteelWingX | Posted: 4/16/2003 9:09:46 PM |
| what do u mean just because i cant do it? if anyone thinks they can beat meta ridley and prime in less than 30 minutes, i will give them a medal...there's 30 right there. taking into account the chozo ghosts alone that you must fight, that is EASILY another 20-30 min. now we are at 50-60 minutes. THEN it takes AT LEAST ten min to get through the beginning scene and anyone who thinks otherwise is living in some weird sped-up dimension. now our minimum is around an hour. Now, there are ONE HUNDRED ITEMS TO GET IN THE GAME; if u got ONE ITEM PER MINUTE ((((((which is more than impossible)))))), the time would be about 160 minutes which is 2 hours and 40 minutes - the time CAL boasts. This BARE minimum time DOESNT EVEN TAKE INTO ACCOUNT all of the travelling and jumping and killing monsters and most of all, killing bosses (killing thardus and omega pirate takes AT LEAST 15 min combined) that is required. |
| From: Paratroopa1 | Posted: 4/16/2003 9:13:05 PM |
| Congratulations! You just won the "most misinformed person ever" award! Good job! --- "I gets soooooooooooooo annoying!" ~ BlueWizard13 "I love to hear people praise me so please feel free to tell me how good I am." ~ jibtothemax |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/16/2003 9:45:30 PM |
| *peers at SteelWingX's last post I think there might be some accurate information in there somewhere besides the fact that there are 100 item pickups in the game, but I'm too lazy to find it. Too much chaff to bother with the wheat. Tell ya what, SteelWingX... instead of leveling accusations at people that you're backing up with (incorrect) assumptions, why don't you just swing by the chat and we'll all talk it over step-by-step, as much as you need? Would be a lot easier that way since you can look at vids yourself. Provided you're polite and ASK NICELY, that is. =) if not, suit yourself. Time stays. I'm such a tyrant, aren't I? ;-) --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: TreborSelbon | Posted: 4/16/2003 9:46:29 PM |
| Just .... stop .... You have no idea how rediculous you sound.... --- it's like a legless man getting a 4-minute mile without using one of the kickass electric wheelchairs ~ Thomeyis, aweing his internet speed |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/16/2003 11:05:57 PM |
| frigate escape 4:18:83 i'll try again some more later. you're too good for me cal, i told you. you don't give yourself enough credit because you're trying to be modest like everyone else. =] well, i'll be second place for a long time at least. i've decided i want to make life very hard for anyone who wants to get on the list, that way the only times that are on it are the ones that should be. normal any % is next i guess, good place to start. also need to finish my hard 24% game... bah |
| From: Spud7 | Posted: 4/17/2003 12:05:43 AM |
| You and me both. --- The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success. Treb's alternate account. If you are seeing this, I was too lazy to switch names after the karma log in. |
| From: Videogaming | Posted: 4/17/2003 12:08:14 AM |
| >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>XD at Steel Wing. Among others, Cal is on the top of my "most trusted" list...There is no way his times are getting kicked off. Heh, I've been far too busy with Wind Waker to worry about Prime. And then there's always SSBM, which I still play... Anyway, about the chat thing, how do you get in. Do you haveto download anything? Make a user name? Gimme a link, although I definetly won't be signing in for a couple days at least. |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/17/2003 1:35:45 AM |
| You need an IRC client. I suggest downloading mIRC from the .com site of the same name, or from wherever you like to get any kind of shareware/freeware. After you've installed it and started the program, fill in the dialogue box that pops up with a nickname and an alternate, choose Random Espernet Server and connect. In the main window, type /join #metroidprime to enter the chat channel. Feel free to stop in whenever you feel like it. There's enough people there from different corners of the world that someone's around most of the time. SteelWingX seemed to enjoy it... ;-) --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: chasm | Posted: 4/17/2003 8:21:12 AM |
| how did you get those frigate times |
| From: zell99 | Posted: 4/17/2003 9:12:21 AM |
| They basically run as hell, roll a lot and don't get hit... dont miss a jump, scan/shoot doors from far away, use the short-grapple-thing trick, L-lock spring jump instead of running (not sure bout that?) and.. yeah, they have to be perfect, never hit a wall/corner/jump, etc... Practice, practice, practice... I tried one yesturday >_> 3:24.xx *dies* I kinda missed the grapples, I let go too early and she DID fall.. lost around 20-30 seconds there, I also didn't remember the route and stuff... i'll retry this weekend and try to get at least 4:10 =) --- http://membres.lycos.fr/zell99/metroid Y'all [...] make sure it's popin' when we get up there... -Tupac |
| From: zell99 | Posted: 4/17/2003 12:09:58 PM |
| Frigate: 4:02.19 I had trouble with the scan for the elevator where you loose all the stuff (around 3-4 secs), and I had trouble with a door too (another 3-4 secs), it didn't want to open for some reason >_> But now I've got the route pretty much memorized, I'll work on that later.. --- http://membres.lycos.fr/zell99/metroid Y'all [...] make sure it's popin' when we get up there... -Tupac |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/17/2003 1:15:22 PM |
| wow zell, nice. looks like you won't have trouble getting over 4:10 or maybe over 4:15. feel free to stop by the chat any time to talk about strats. |
| From: MetaRidley2 | Posted: 4/17/2003 1:39:23 PM |
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| From: kip | Posted: 4/17/2003 1:44:23 PM |
| why don't you just try it? after all, you've gotten through magmoor without varia, so you must have an idea of how to get through places quickly. |
| From: MetaRidley2 | Posted: 4/17/2003 1:53:08 PM |
| i just found somethin in the link on the first page an it says escape times.. 4 minutes. or so.. now i think that sounds really believeble :) |
| From: gamecubeman27 | Posted: 4/17/2003 4:33:32 PM |
| Steal Wing, i have beat Meta Ridley in about 8 or 9 minutes and Prime in about 15 minutes, and if my math i correct, which it is, thats about 23 or 24 minutes. so i want me medal! --- E. V. I. L. Every Villain Is Lemons. |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/17/2003 5:16:30 PM |
| Another medal for me, dude. Oh, and Cal definitly is Super Human. You could lock him in a pitch black chamber, both Arms on back and blindfooled, give him a broken NES Pad to play a Korean Version of a Japanese PS2 Game while he has to listen to polka all the time, and he'd still get a World Record in 2 hours at most. --- AIM: refllcooldave MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 4:03.23 HRC ~53450ft/16291.6m EM: 3610 CM: 129 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: TreborSelbon | Posted: 4/17/2003 6:36:50 PM |
| Bah. I missed Steel Wing in the chat. I hope to get my computer back tonight, but there's no telling, really... --- it's like a legless man getting a 4-minute mile without using one of the kickass electric wheelchairs ~ Thomeyis, aweing his internet speed |
| From: Icesorcofdeath | Posted: 4/17/2003 6:48:54 PM |
| "Both testes with Action Replay" I thought that was funny. And LLcool, that is a record among itself. --- ~Shadowbane~ The Renegades site~http://www.geocities.com/therenegadessb/ |
| From: zell99 | Posted: 4/17/2003 7:20:17 PM |
| "CAL is sexah" -kip I fully agree =) --- http://membres.lycos.fr/zell99/metroid Y'all [...] make sure it's popin' when we get up there... -Tupac |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/17/2003 7:32:39 PM |
| Oh, and Cal definitly is Super Human. You could lock him in a pitch black chamber, both Arms on back and blindfooled, give him a broken NES Pad to play a Korean Version of a Japanese PS2 Game while he has to listen to polka all the time, and he'd still get a World Record in 2 hours at most. =D =D Now THAT's talent. =D --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: Dbzfan | Posted: 4/17/2003 9:12:45 PM |
| chasm are you on |
| From: MetaRidley2 | Posted: 4/17/2003 9:16:07 PM |
| Whats the address to that chat room for Mirc?. espernet or somethin isnt on the list on my thing :( |
| From: zell99 | Posted: 4/17/2003 9:26:51 PM |
| run #9: 4:09.89 that's not bad at all.. I'm slowly getting it, but I don't see how I could do 4:20'ish times --- http://membres.lycos.fr/zell99/metroid Y'all [...] make sure it's popin' when we get up there... -Tupac |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/18/2003 1:47:16 AM |
| normal 100% 2:19 all on vid =) --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/18/2003 5:39:39 AM |
| Cal's our god! 1:19 Before entering Phazon Mines Back --- AIM: refllcooldave MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 4:03.23 HRC ~53450ft/16291.6m EM: 3610 CM: 129 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: gamecubeman27 | Posted: 4/18/2003 7:21:01 AM |
| CAL is one of if not the best MP player --- I am smart, but only on teh days that end in "y" |
| From: gamecubeman27 | Posted: 4/18/2003 2:25:30 PM |
| i think a bump is needed here. BUMP. narmal any%: 3:11 66%. amasawa an update would be nice. --- I am smart, but only on teh days that end in "y" |
| From: gamecubeman27 | Posted: 4/18/2003 7:30:29 PM |
| guess im the only on1 bumping today. oh, well. BUMP --- I am smart, but only on teh days that end in "y" |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/18/2003 8:34:17 PM |
| frigate escape 4:20:15 if only i didn't mess up in the last room... but i'm happy with 4:20 for now, i doubt it could have been turned into 4:21. gonna chill for now i think until there's more frigate competition. vid time |
| From: Yoritoki Komatsu | Posted: 4/18/2003 8:50:36 PM |
| cal can you type out your path for pick-ups it seems you know the correct way to get fast times. you and justinF are neck and neck it seems. so why dont you share with us your blueprint for success? check out fast times at geocities.com/vgtop10/mp |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/18/2003 8:58:01 PM |
| i'll share my route with justinf only on irc. if you want to start doing speed runs, you shouldn't start out with my routes, because they basically require every trick in the book. i've also learned not to post my routes on gamefaqs, because random people will magically start claiming lower times and use the excuse "i used you're route except i went faster". --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: Yoritoki Komatsu | Posted: 4/18/2003 9:11:57 PM |
| the guys at twin galaxies know who cal foolio is they said his 1:46 video was fun to watch and they think he will get lower than 1:40 in his next minimalist run check it out at the link below >sodoreturns ha ha ha http://www.twingalaxies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=810 |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/18/2003 9:25:47 PM |
| yes, that would be because i mailed them a tape of my 1:46 run. btw, i'm learning new things from kip everyday. next time i attempt normal any%, i'll probably have around 1:35. --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/18/2003 9:25:57 PM |
| quick correction: escape was 4:20:17 according to the last frame of the vid before the leaving cutscene |
| From: Yoritoki Komatsu | Posted: 4/18/2003 9:29:47 PM |
| hey you mentioned an irc chat thing what site can i download that from? |
| From: zell99 | Posted: 4/19/2003 12:00:53 AM |
| Frigate: 4:15.39 CAL & kip, watch your back, I'm comin' >_> --- http://membres.lycos.fr/zell99/metroid Y'all [...] make sure it's popin' when we get up there... -Tupac |
| From: justinf | Posted: 4/19/2003 12:32:14 AM |
| ::: ::: :: :::: :::::: :: ::: :: ::::: : : : :: :: :: :: :: : :: :: : : : :: ::: :: :: :: : :: :::: 3-26-2003 ::: : : :: : :: :: :: ::: :: 12:03 : : ::::::::::: :: :: :: :: :: ++++++++The War-Path for a minimalist run++++++ this path is good for the chums who want to record there twingalaxie tape with "for the most part no sequence breaking" after all you don't want to run the tape too long -extra pickups up to your own discretion- -time avg is for each section NOT a total time- +++ location +++ +++ items +++ +++time avg+++ get through intro space station as fast as possible 6-8 min ---------------------------- jet off to chozo ruins Rocket launcher chozo ruins Morph ball chozo ruins Charge Beam chozo ruins Moph ball bombs chozo ruins Viria suit 15-20 min ----------------------------- Magmoore ----------------------------- Phendrana Boost ball ----------------------------- chozo ruins Space jump boots artifact truth ----------------------------- Magmoore artifact strength ---------------------------- Phendrana wave beam phendrana super missle phendrana spiderball 25-40 min ---------------------------- chozo ruins artifact wild artifact lifegiver chozo ruins ice beam --------------------------- magmoore artifact nature magmoore plasma beam -------------------------- Phendrana power bomb pick - up -------------------------- magmoore -------------------------- chozo ruins artifact world -------------------------- tallon over world x-ray visor artifact chozo -------------------------- chozo ruins -------------------------- magmoore -------------------------- phendrana artifact spirit artifact elder artifact sun -------------------------- magmoore -------------------------- Phazon mines artifact warrior Phazon mines phazon suit 60-85 min artifact new born ------------------------- magmoore ------------------------- tallon over world ------------------------- duke it out with ridley duke it out with metroid prime 30-50 min -------------------------------------------------------------------------- totals: avg. 2:40 my times: 1st try) 2:37 2nd try) 2:32 3rd try) 2:21 my guess: lowest possible with this guide mabye 2:10 toooo much backtracking!!!!!!! you can mold this guide to what best fits the artifact pickups but this was my first draft so i stuck with the way it was. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- i hope i did not upset anyone but this path is about obsolete now i don't even use this one anymore but its the only one i have typed up... about that swapping of info cal im up for it too thank you :) |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/19/2003 12:50:39 AM |
| wow, that was a very confusing route. justinf, i have 1 question... when in your route did you get the main power bombs in central dynamo? --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: justinf | Posted: 4/19/2003 1:04:05 AM |
| well im only allowed to post three messages per hour so im ganna try to fit alot into this one and the next one. if im not mistaken i power bombed the blocked door in central dynamo to get through and fight the omega pirate. then i back tracked to get the artifact of newborn then went ahead and exited the phazon mines through the phazon prossesing center i get what you mean i think i left it out of the course or something because the only way to get back through that way is to collect the power bombs to unlock the door but then you have to exit out to magmoore or get stuck to the sticky invisible wall in the elite research room i think its called (the room with the lazer) so it would come after omega pirate for sure |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/19/2003 1:30:18 AM |
| so you got the powerbombs in between fighting omega pirate and getting the artifact of warrior? --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: justinf | Posted: 4/19/2003 1:36:12 AM |
| yup but if you fallowed my guide you would have to go through the crashed frigate like i said you can mold the artifacts to your likeing - it was just a rough draft anyway can we talk in an irc because i cannot post anymore my restrictions are unfair |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/19/2003 1:48:32 AM |
| that's alright, i have no desire to talk to liars. --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/19/2003 1:59:08 AM |
| Yeah, Cal's right. And how on earth are you supposed to spent 60-85 Minutes in the Mines?!? --- AIM: refllcooldave MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 4:03.23 HRC ~53450ft/16291.6m EM: 3610 CM: 129 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: gamecubeman27 | Posted: 4/19/2003 6:39:01 AM |
| i need some tips on how to get the space jump early. i have checked zell's site. the vid didn't really help all that much. --- I am smart, but only on teh days that end in "y" |
| From: zell99 | Posted: 4/19/2003 10:28:57 AM |
| gamedude- this trick involves a lot of practice.. like a lot =/ it took me over 1h the first time... try to do as in the vid, place your first bomb, then roll forward, place your bomb 2 and you'll be able to place your 3rd bomb a little closer to the ledge, come back, roll forward again, bomb 2 will propel you up and a little forward, bomb 3 too, then unmorph and wish you made it.. also, aim for the little ledge sticking out --- http://membres.lycos.fr/zell99/metroid Y'all [...] make sure it's popin' when we get up there... -Tupac |
| From: gamecubeman27 | Posted: 4/19/2003 12:55:24 PM |
| i'll prolly try later, cuz i've been playin splinter cell all day. i'm hocked on it --- I am smart, but only on teh days that end in "y" |
| From: Yoritoki Komatsu | Posted: 4/19/2003 4:26:27 PM |
| i think what justinf said was that it takes 60 minutes from the last timed section not JUST the mines so you guys called him liar for nothing |
| From: TreborSelbon | Posted: 4/19/2003 4:38:29 PM |
| First time I did early sj, it took me at least 6 hours. Too bad there's no need for Varia-less Magmoor now. --- it's like a legless man getting a 4-minute mile without using one of the kickass electric wheelchairs ~ Thomeyis, aweing his internet speed |
| From: Videogaming | Posted: 4/19/2003 4:53:14 PM |
| Was there ever? |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/19/2003 5:01:09 PM |
| justinf is lying because his route is impossible. even if it were possible, there's no way he could have gotten 2:21 with the amount of back tracking that he does. --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/19/2003 5:16:23 PM |
| just figured out life grove tunnel without boost (both from left to right and right to left). too bad that boost isn't gonna be skipped, much less for 23%, thanks to geo and life grove without boost and hydro without grav and boost. but always nice to know life grove tunnel wouldn't pose a problem. it's not hard to do either. |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/19/2003 8:30:40 PM |
| frigate escape 4:21:38 learned a few strats from cal and also found a couple new ones of my own. one of them saves almost half a second, but sadly it seems so hard to do that it's almost unrealistic. if i had did that strat in this run and didn't mess up in the last room again (as usual), i prolly could've gotten 4:22. but on the other hand i might just let cal handle that cuz i want to keep my sanity. |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/19/2003 9:18:56 PM |
| hmm, strange... the last frame in virtualdub says 4:21:40, but when i slow it down to 1/15 on the vcr i thought for sure i saw 4:21:38 at the end. i don't know which one to trust as the real time; if it's 38, so be it, but if it's not i won't accept it. any of you other guys ever try these kinds of comparisons to find out the real time of the last two digits? i wish the game would just tell you when you get out. |
| From: Gold Leader | Posted: 4/19/2003 9:55:54 PM |
| NOO!!! Amasawa is becoming another VG. UPDATE!!! --- Want to promote you site? Go to: http://www.holyhits.com/?id=9766 All it takes is 2 minutes. |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/19/2003 10:01:43 PM |
| wow, kip pwned my frigate escape time XD --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/19/2003 10:11:06 PM |
| yeah for one day... =] |
| From: TreborSelbon | Posted: 4/19/2003 10:28:28 PM |
| Maybe I need to get involved in this... ...in a few days. --- it's like a legless man getting a 4-minute mile without using one of the kickass electric wheelchairs ~ Thomeyis, aweing his internet speed |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/19/2003 10:36:59 PM |
| well, it's nice to know you can make mistakes and still get 4:21... just not that many. but when 4:22 becomes the new standard it'll be a pain. |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/20/2003 9:33:30 AM |
| kip, let me know if you get your VHS vs. virtualdub discrepancy worked out. I'll post the lower of the two times for now since you're currently sitting in the top spot above that margin of difference. as usual, please let me know if there are any corrections necessary. Normal Low% 1. TreborSelbon 2:55 (24%) 2. Gold Leader 4:09 (24%) 3. Videogaming 4:22 (27%) Normal any% 1. CAL Foolio 1:46 (48%) 2. funkytoad 2:31 (47%) 3. gamecubeman27 3:11 (66%) Normal 100% 1. CAL Foolio 2:19 2. Lazy Veysey 3:02 3. Urazz Izmine 3:17 Hard Low% 1. Gold Leader 4:01 (26%) 2. kip 3:20 (27%) 3. Hard any% 1. Gold Leader 1:58 (31%) 2. CAL Foolio 3:02 (100%) 3. ShotgunShot402 6:24 (94%) Hard 100% 1. CAL Foolio 2:49 2. Varsis Erion 3:50 3. gamecubeman27 9:25 Best Frigate Escape Times (Time Remaining) 1. kip 4:21.38 2. CAL Foolio 4:20.53 3. zell99 4:15.39 --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: zell99 | Posted: 4/20/2003 10:56:21 AM |
| Hard any% 1. Gold Leader 1:58 (31%) 2. CAL Foolio 3:02 (100%) 3. ShotgunShot402 6:24 (94%) Hard 100% 1. CAL Foolio 2:49 --- http://membres.lycos.fr/zell99/metroid Y'all [...] make sure it's popin' when we get up there... -Tupac |
| From: Videogaming | Posted: 4/20/2003 11:39:50 AM |
| I resent that. I updated pretty often. And I usually got everything right... ::glares at Amasawa:: Nah, I'm j/k. On a sad note, I have almost completely lost interest in Metroid Prime. I think I might beat it just one more time, then ::sniffle:: sell it. Along with Luigi's Mansion, which I haven't played in months. Strangely, SSBM is still insanely amusing, almost on the scale of Wind Waker, which I still haven't beaten... |
| From: Major Gamer | Posted: 4/20/2003 11:55:42 AM |
| Why are the normal any% times a bit high. My time on that was 3:03 with 46%, and that before sequence breaking really kicked in. Normal any% 3:03 46% --- Whoever said there is no such thing as a stupid question never heard of the Internet. |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/20/2003 1:09:56 PM |
| thanks zell, I appreciate it! ^_^ *humbly accepts VG's verbal flailing <=] Hsve fun with the other games. I hope I get a chance to play WW soon myself. Major Gamer, I had a 2:33 time for Normal any % that I've since removed from the list, since I prefer not to have any of my own times on the list while I'm responsible for keeping it up to date. I didn't have info on previously posted times for the 3rd slot in that category saved, unfortunately, so thanks for reposting the info and welcome back to the scoreboard. =) Normal Low% 1. TreborSelbon 2:55 (24%) 2. Gold Leader 4:09 (24%) 3. Videogaming 4:22 (27%) Normal any% 1. CAL Foolio 1:46 (48%) 2. funkytoad 2:31 (47%) 3. Major Gamer 3:03 (46%) Normal 100% 1. CAL Foolio 2:19 2. Lazy Veysey 3:02 3. Urazz Izmine 3:17 Hard Low% 1. Gold Leader 4:01 (26%) 2. kip 3:20 (27%) 3. Hard any% 1. Gold Leader 1:58 (31%) 2. CAL Foolio 2:49 (100%) 3. ShotgunShot402 6:24 (94%) Hard 100% 1. CAL Foolio 2:49 2. Varsis Erion 3:50 3. gamecubeman27 9:25 Best Frigate Escape Times (Time Remaining) 1. kip 4:21.38 2. CAL Foolio 4:20.53 3. zell99 4:15.39 --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: zell99 | Posted: 4/20/2003 1:54:36 PM |
| Ama, i think you should include your time as well, even if you are the one updating, it doesn't mean you can't have good times... you are in the top 3, include you time ;) --- http://membres.lycos.fr/zell99/metroid Y'all [...] make sure it's popin' when we get up there... -Tupac |
| From: Gold Leader | Posted: 4/20/2003 2:09:46 PM |
| I am thinking of doing a fast normal game. i don't know --- Free cookie. Just tell me what kind you want. Cookies served: 1 |
| From: Major Gamer | Posted: 4/20/2003 2:49:24 PM |
| At least that explains a bit. I haven't really played this game in a while. I'm still in the middle of a 24% game from when I last played. Guess I'll go try to finish it. --- Whoever said there is no such thing as a stupid question never heard of the Internet. |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/20/2003 2:59:40 PM |
| i guess i forgot to mention that i have 4:20.65 frigate escape since kip got the new record. --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: gamecubeman27 | Posted: 4/20/2003 4:31:49 PM |
| this is gonna get booted when some1 does a hard low % but hard low %: 31% 4:35 picked up a couple more e-tanks. --- I am smart, but only on teh days that end in "y" |
| From: Gold Leader | Posted: 4/20/2003 5:06:51 PM |
| what? --- Free cookie. Just tell me what kind you want. Cookies served: 1 |
| From: gamecubeman27 | Posted: 4/20/2003 7:22:43 PM |
| translataion from my last post. hard low% 31% 4:35 that time is going to get knocked off when someone a hard low lower than 31%. --- I am smart, but only on teh days that end in "y" |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/21/2003 3:00:31 PM |
| hmm, everyone must be so scared of my frigate escape time that they stopped posting. =[ |
| From: Gold Leader | Posted: 4/21/2003 4:07:04 PM |
| there is no hard low% 31% 4:35. I have no clue what you are talking about!! --- Free cookie. Just tell me what kind you want. Cookies served: 1 |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/21/2003 7:14:01 PM |
| *cowers in fear of kip* --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: SteelWingX | Posted: 4/21/2003 8:23:42 PM |
| you can put me up there in 3rd for Hard 100%; my game time is 6:29 and all i have to do is kill prime but when i do, it will definately beat that 3rd place time |
| From: Videogaming | Posted: 4/21/2003 11:06:10 PM |
| You have to actually beat Prime, then use the time on the ending screen... Just wondering...is there an equivalent of Hippodrome for Prime? Cuz it would be cool to compare to the Japanese...bet they have some crazy records already. I wonder... |
| From: TreborSelbon | Posted: 4/22/2003 12:09:36 AM |
| After tomorrow, the rest of my semester is downhill, so I should be able to finish up that hard 24% run. --- it's like a legless man getting a 4-minute mile without using one of the kickass electric wheelchairs ~ Thomeyis, aweing his internet speed |
| From: themaelstrom | Posted: 4/22/2003 2:42:17 AM |
| i dont understand how you could possibly beat this game in under 3 hours! there is so much to do...between bosses, collecting artifacts, and just getting from one place to another, there is a lot of ground to cover. --- I AM...LOOKING...FORWARD...GWAAAAAH!~lady in Old Miltia Park |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/22/2003 3:00:46 AM |
| maelstrom: that's definitely true, but a lot of stuff has been figured out. people's route's have been carefully examined to eliminate any possible unnecessary steps and they only get the items they feel save time for something later. in other words no excess whatsoever, no energy tanks that aren't completely in the way, same goes for missile expansions. and of course the wavebuster and flamethrower, which are of limited use and no use respectively, are never gotten. that's just the start. the first time i went through the game i felt similar to you; i wondered if the endings were actually based on time this time around, because it looked like it would be hard to beat the game in under 3 hours or 2 hours. but it's amazing how things change; i now hold the belief that under 2 hours for normal any % isn't even impressive anymore, and other beliefs like that. and i'm always pushing cal to beat his times (like sub-2ing normal 100%). |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/22/2003 4:19:26 AM |
| kip, you should finish you're hard 24% game before "pushing" anyone XD --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: gamecubeman27 | Posted: 4/22/2003 8:26:14 AM |
| GL, dont mind that hard low thing. My neighbor really doesn't know what he is talking about. i'll take a chocolate-chip cookie too. --- I am smart, but only on teh days that end in "y" |
| From: kip | Posted: 4/23/2003 2:53:13 AM |
| hard 24% 4:00 finally beat that horrible nightmare known as prime form 2. anyway, got it on tape and all so i'll prove it to you ama. trebor is gonna kill my time when he's done because lots of low % time savers were figured out after i had already made it to ridley. maybe someday i'll do another game... but i am so not thinking about that for now. |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/23/2003 3:13:04 AM |
| At last it's been confirmed -- a hard mode 24% game! >=D kip, what can I say -- you've broken this game down in more ways than any single person I know. Congratulations on pulling off such a challenging run! Take a trip to the carribean or something, sit on a beach for a while and drink rum, or whatever suits you. You've earned it. =) --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/23/2003 5:01:14 AM |
| congrats kip! took you long enuff =D --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: scizor213 | Posted: 4/23/2003 5:46:30 AM |
| My time is the best! Normal %72 32:12. (Lots of leving the game on overnight). --- i NO i KANT SPEL http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4923289 |
| From: gamecubeman27 | Posted: 4/23/2003 8:47:16 AM |
| scizor, wow man i will never be able to beat that time!!! BTW if you leave the game on over night pause it. i think the time stops. --- I am smart, but only on teh days that end in "y" |
| From: zell99 | Posted: 4/23/2003 9:04:31 AM |
| WOW! Kip! You are the man =) Congrats!! Took you 2 months to complete this run? =P --- http://membres.lycos.fr/zell99/metroid Y'all [...] make sure it's popin' when we get up there... -Tupac |
| From: SteelWingX | Posted: 4/23/2003 10:11:09 AM |
| k since i actually whooped prime's ass last night i can post my 3rd place time (i only lost 136 energy the WHOLE fight including both forms): 6:50 Hard 100% items and scans |
| From: Amasawa | Posted: 4/23/2003 12:32:48 PM |
| Here comes the update... btw I noticed one the times from each of the 100% categories is faster than the 3rd place spots in their respective any% categories, so I copied those over since they qualify. Major Gamer, your time in particular was bumped off by the normal 100% time that's a minute faster, so if you feel like a quick run through the game to best 3:03 I'm sure you could pull if off easily and get back on the chart. Normal Low% 1. TreborSelbon 2:55 (24%) 2. Gold Leader 4:09 (24%) 3. Videogaming 4:22 (27%) Normal any% 1. CAL Foolio 1:46 (48%) 2. funkytoad 2:31 (47%) 3. Lazy Veysey 3:02 (100%) Normal 100% 1. CAL Foolio 2:19 2. Lazy Veysey 3:02 3. Urazz Izmine 3:17 Hard Low% 1. kip 4:00 (24%) 2. Gold Leader 4:01 (26%) 3. gamecubeman27 4:35 (31%) Hard any% 1. Gold Leader 1:58 (31%) 2. CAL Foolio 2:49 (100%) 3. Varsis Erion 3:50 (100%) Hard 100% 1. CAL Foolio 2:49 2. Varsis Erion 3:50 3. SteelWingX 6:50 Best Frigate Escape Times (Time Remaining) 1. kip 4:21.38 2. CAL Foolio 4:20.65 3. zell99 4:15.39 --- Metroid E-Comic English script notes -- vol2. http://mywebpages.comcast.net/amasawa/Metroid_E-Comic_EnglishScript.htm |
| From: CALFoolio | Posted: 4/24/2003 2:18:33 AM |
| anyone currently working on any speed runs? cuz i'm not =\ --- SSBM- BtT: 3:34.36 HRC: 87636.9 ft Metroid Prime- Normal 100%: 2:19 Hard 100%: 2:49 |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/24/2003 5:59:48 AM |
| 1:34, still before 2nd Phazon Mines run >_< Really need to get me to go on with that-.- --- AIM: llcooldave btt MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 3:57.21 HRC who cares EM: 3610 CM: 139 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: scizor213 | Posted: 4/24/2003 6:06:07 AM |
| I'm working o a hard mode game Already over 48 hours ssince i left it on for 2 days stright. --- i NO i KANT SPEL http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4923289 |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/24/2003 1:25:24 PM |
| 23% is freaking close. I got an idea for MQA which still has to be tested, as well as one for NTSC Sun Tower. Won't tell yet, though. --- AIM: llcooldave btt MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 3:57.21 HRC who cares EM: 3610 CM: 139 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: bigbadwolf | Posted: 4/24/2003 5:26:00 PM |
| I _knew_ spiderball would be the next realistic skippable. You've got AR, right LL? My 20% run gave me a good idea of what was possible and what wasn't... --- Insigno ergo sum. |
| From: scizor213 | Posted: 4/24/2003 7:56:23 PM |
| What about the combat suit or the power beam? J/k --- i NO i KANT SPEL http://service.madonion.com/compare?2k1=4923289 |
| From: LLCoolDave | Posted: 4/25/2003 3:31:09 AM |
| >_> Stuck at Hydro access. Also, hwo did you get 20%? All i could skip SJ, Spiderball and varfia. >_> --- AIM: llcooldave btt MSN: ocwcxllcd@hotmail.com ICQ: 131893897 Btt: 3:57.21 HRC who cares EM: 3610 CM: 139 10MM 3:42.53 <== getting better |
| From: TreborSelbon | Posted: 4/25/2003 8:41:45 AM |
| Bah. Who knows when I'll get my Internet back. Something is wrong and I can't get online at the house. Ah well...there's still school. --- it's like a legless man getting a 4-minute mile without using one of the kickass electric wheelchairs ~ Thomeyis, aweing his internet speed |
| From: Strider4102 | Posted: 4/25/2003 2:49:23 PM |
| I've got a question: I've been away from Metroid Prime for a little while thanks to LoZ:WW, SC2, and Ikaruga, and I'm still stuck at the beginning of Phazon Mines on my 24% hard run. On April 8th, kip mentioned it was possible to skip those pesky wave pirates, but did n |