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'''Grapple Beam'''
 
  
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<s>- Only needed for the room prior to the Vault (room you get Screw Attack in).  Methods have been found to bypass all other grapple points. 
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'''Unskippable Items'''
  
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- Alternatively, figure out how to skip Screw Attack (as described below) and solve reaching the Energy Controller room in Sanctuary Temple.</s>
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'''Light/Dark Beams, PBs, Missiles, Bombs, Light Suit, Dark Visor'''
  
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''update:'' Grapple Beam has now been skipped by robot jumping by kip.
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- All needed in multiple locations.  Chance of skipping these is likely 0.
  
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'''Screw Attack'''
 
  
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- Needed in Ing Hive Temple, <s>to obtain an Ing Hive Key</s>, to obtain the Sky Temple Key in Ing Hive Entrance, and to reach Emperor Ing.
 
  
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'''Gravity Boost'''
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'''Screw Attack'''
  
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- Dark Tovus Key 2 prevents this skip.  Either reaching Sanctuary early, defeating the PB Guardian without Spider Ball, reaching the Dark World portal without Gravity Boost then leaving Light Torvus without Gravity Boost, or secret worlding to the key are the only known possible and plausible solutions to reaching the key without Gravity Boost.
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- Needed in Ing Hive Temple (a non-SA-SW in the Ing Hive Energy controller room would solve this)
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-Needed to reach Emperor Ing
  
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''update:'' PB after Dark Suit is now possible using a Secret World in Feeding pit.  It is still too early to tell, but Grav Boost can be likely skipped this way.  But not for lower % due to the nature of needing the main PB expansion (see below) and extra e-tanks.
 
  
 
'''Seeker Missiles'''
 
'''Seeker Missiles'''
  
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- Gates blocking the path from Torvus to Sanctuary. These include Sacred Bridge, and the second room past Sanctuary Entrance.  You can not see the seeker targets for these gates without Dark Visor; however, you can damage seeker targets without Dark Visor on.
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- One sky Temple key prevents this skip. A SW in the Dark Plain of Worship would solve this.
  
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- Accursed Lake and Reliquary Sky Temple Keys
 
  
 
'''Boost Ball'''
 
'''Boost Ball'''
  
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- Needed to enter Sanctuary (1st room in Sanc.) We might be able to get the early PBs in feeding pit early then use it to to get into sanc early w/o Boost Ball? (VIA Agon Temple Light Beam door)
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-Needed for getting Seeker Missiles
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-Needed for beating the Spider Guardian
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-Needed for getting Screw Attack
  
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'''Annihilator Beam'''
 
  
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- Only the doors in Ing Hive temple prevent this item from being skipped.  However, bypassing them will likely only be possible via secret worlds.
 
  
 
'''Spiderball'''
 
'''Spiderball'''
  
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- Needed for various rooms still, PB Guardian, and potentially Emperor Ing form 2.  Not needed for Quadraxis. Not needed for Dynamo Access (stand on rim of pole on either side, space jump up through spiderball track, Babie Sheegoth for that one)
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-Needed for Emperor Ing II
  
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''update''<br>Okay, so I was messing around on my AR with the moonjump and Infinite health/ammo codes to figure out what could and couldn't be skipped when I found out the hard way that the spiderball cannot be skipped.  I had been playing for about an hour without saving when I just beat Quadraxis and was about to leave the sanctuary when I thought, maybe I should get the Sky Temple keys first.  So I went through the spider ball boss sequence, didn't pick up the item, and power bombed the door to enter the dark world in order to get the sky temple key.  Got the key and came back when I realized:<br>1. The spider ball pickup was gone and:<br>2.  All of the energy thingys the spider guardian had destroyed were back, thus blocking my exit. <br>I'm not sure if this would have been different if I had left the room out the entrance before I opened the power bomb door, but I'm almost positive that this spells the end for any possibility of skipping the spider ball...<br>
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'''Amber Translator'''
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<vanishes to attempt to make up an hour's worth of lost work>
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''update''<br>I entered the spider puzzle from the back side (moonjump) before entering Main Gyro. There were no "energy things", and no Spidey. I had no dark visor, but I entered the room with the key, then returned to the light world. Still no Spidey or puzzle. When I entered Main Gyro then returned to Dynamo Works, the energy things had appeared.<br>
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Needed to escape Agon Temple after aquiring Bombs. A Secret World in the acessable rooms which requires Bombs only would skip this item.
  
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'''Dark Visor'''
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'''Violet Translator'''
  
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- Needed to see and damage Ing Hive Caches holding sky temple keys.  Summised they only exist when the dark visor is on in a manner akin to how Omega Pirate is only damagable when X-ray is on in Metroid Prime 1.
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Required for entering/leaving Agon
  
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- Also needed for Seekers to lock on to Dark World viewable Seeker targets.
 
  
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'''Light/Dark Beams, PBs, Super Missiles, Missiles, Bombs, Space Jump, Light Suit'''
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'''Items which can be skipped, but not for low %'''
  
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- All needed in multiple locations.  Chance of skipping these is likely 0.
 
  
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'''Translator Doors'''
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'''Space Jump'''
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I don't know where this would be required, but skipping it with all these other items seems unlikely...
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'''Dark Suit'''
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-The Dark Suit is required for the Annihilator skip.
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'''Dark Suit and Annihilator'''
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-Though it has to be proven yet, it might be possible to skip Dark Suit instead of Annihilator using MBI.
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-Boost Guardian can be beaten using an early Power Bomb, so this would require skipping the Super Missile.
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-Quadraxis has to be tested yet.
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'''Gravity Boost, early Power Bomb and Super Missiles'''
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-It is possible to skip Gravity Boost; Power Bombs are not required to do so.
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-It is possible to get a Power Bomb expansion quite early.
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-It is seemingly possible to skip Super Missiles, but it hasn't been done yet, because everybody hates Echoes.
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-Skipping Super Missiles requires an early Power Bomb to get the Lower Torvus key.
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-It is necessary to get the Main Power Bomb to have the Sky Temple key in Dark Oasis spawn. So skipping Super Missile doesn't lower the lowest %.
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-It is possible to get the Main Power Bomb early, but that's only after killing Chykka.
  
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- Great Temple, Agon, and Torvus translators required to reach later areas.  Sanctuary Translator can be skipped using a series of Secret Worlds.
 
  
  
 
'''Notes:'''  
 
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- The only known "skippable" required items (that counts as %) are the Echo Visor, the Grapple Beam, and the Dark Suit but the Dark Suit requires additional energy tank pickups to complete the game.  Thus, higher percent completion when skipped. See [[Light Suit without Dark Suit]]
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- Skippable Items are '''Grapple Beam, Space Jump, Annihilator, Super Missiles, Gravity boost, Dark Suit, Super Missiles, Echo Visor, Cobalt Translator, Emerald Translator'''
  
 
- Amorbis, and therefore the Dark Agon keys can be skipped when skipping the Dark Suit.
 
- Amorbis, and therefore the Dark Agon keys can be skipped when skipping the Dark Suit.
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- The Caretaker Drone can be skipped by getting [[Early Screw Attack|Screw Attack early]].
 
- The Caretaker Drone can be skipped by getting [[Early Screw Attack|Screw Attack early]].
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- The PB Guardian can be put off till later if you get Screw Attack and therefore a [[Early Power Bomb Expansion|early PB expansion]], but it must be beaten eventually to have the Sky Temple key in Dark Oasis spawn.  ''update:'' same rule should apply to Feeding Pit expansion obtained after Dark Suit via secret worlds.
 

Revision as of 11:37, 12 June 2006

Last Updated 06/12/06


Unskippable Items

Light/Dark Beams, PBs, Missiles, Bombs, Light Suit, Dark Visor

- All needed in multiple locations. Chance of skipping these is likely 0.


Screw Attack

- Needed in Ing Hive Temple (a non-SA-SW in the Ing Hive Energy controller room would solve this)

-Needed to reach Emperor Ing


Seeker Missiles

- One sky Temple key prevents this skip. A SW in the Dark Plain of Worship would solve this.


Boost Ball

-Needed for getting Seeker Missiles

-Needed for beating the Spider Guardian

-Needed for getting Screw Attack


Spiderball

-Needed for Emperor Ing II

Amber Translator

Needed to escape Agon Temple after aquiring Bombs. A Secret World in the acessable rooms which requires Bombs only would skip this item.

Violet Translator

Required for entering/leaving Agon


Items which can be skipped, but not for low %


Space Jump

I don't know where this would be required, but skipping it with all these other items seems unlikely...


Dark Suit

-The Dark Suit is required for the Annihilator skip.


Dark Suit and Annihilator

-Though it has to be proven yet, it might be possible to skip Dark Suit instead of Annihilator using MBI.

-Boost Guardian can be beaten using an early Power Bomb, so this would require skipping the Super Missile.

-Quadraxis has to be tested yet.


Gravity Boost, early Power Bomb and Super Missiles

-It is possible to skip Gravity Boost; Power Bombs are not required to do so.

-It is possible to get a Power Bomb expansion quite early.

-It is seemingly possible to skip Super Missiles, but it hasn't been done yet, because everybody hates Echoes.

-Skipping Super Missiles requires an early Power Bomb to get the Lower Torvus key.

-It is necessary to get the Main Power Bomb to have the Sky Temple key in Dark Oasis spawn. So skipping Super Missile doesn't lower the lowest %.

-It is possible to get the Main Power Bomb early, but that's only after killing Chykka.


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- Skippable Items are Grapple Beam, Space Jump, Annihilator, Super Missiles, Gravity boost, Dark Suit, Super Missiles, Echo Visor, Cobalt Translator, Emerald Translator

- Amorbis, and therefore the Dark Agon keys can be skipped when skipping the Dark Suit.

- Returning the energy to Agon and Torvus can be skipped (but not Sanctuary, for that triggers Light Suit).

- The keys for the Ing Hive can be skipped by getting over the Ing Hive key gate blocking you from Quadraxis. See Skipping the Ing Hive Keys.

- The Caretaker Drone can be skipped by getting Screw Attack early.

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